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FASHION ISLAND, Dark Park The late composer and music theorist Arnold Schoenberg once said, “Intelligibility in music seems to be impossible without repetition,” and it’s the recurring cycle of musical motifs that’s the hallmark of Fashion Island’s third part of his so-called “Hanoi Trilogy.” Repetition though is understandable in “Dark Park” because…

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Fraud because he didnt ever fight this hard when he actually had the power to make a difference and do change. so the voters saide are done with you and now hes acting like and hes angry because hes losing power. this is the demise of a guy who had a lot of power in washington. >> hold on, would imply he doesnt mean what he says. seems clear he does mean what he says. >> first of all, everything ben just said abo corker, hes right. no love for bob corker there, but when a party cant abide critic...

Happen. well see what happens. something will happen. >> and there have been protests, dozens of them across the country, over this issue. you see here, in california, students walking out of classes this week in protest of ending the d.r.e.a.m.ers program. president trumps negotiations with the democrats rattling some conservatives in the base there. this potential d.r.e.a.m.ers deal would mark the second trump/nancy pelosi deal in the past month. gentlemen, thank you for being with us. ben, ...

Be rattle something nerves here. there are some people saying we docht like you mixing that plan together. to that, you say? >> well, yeah, thats exactly correct. ial agree with everything ben said. but heres the deal, daca is a major concession. its a chip that we as republicans hold on immigration. >> wouldnt the law be a major concession as well? >> thats exactly right, the wall would be a concession by the democrats. why would the president -- i dont think this is a good deal by him right no...

Base. >> its legalization, yes. >> im sorry? >> its legalization, were going to allow them to stay here. once again, just like ben, im not opposed to daca, but what im opposed to is doing daca without security, without the wall. >> but the president has said he wont do daca without doing the wall. >> well, thats new. certainly, when pelosi and schumer left that dinner, they immediately statement with a statement and they said that passing daca, to them, what the president told them, was not tied...

To us for new laws. that is exactly what the president has done. he has not made any new law. he clarified, doubling down on existing law. where he wants new law made, he is going to congress. now what youre seeing is people who got so far over their skis saying this is going to be tyranny having to find little things, everything ben talked about can be easily remied and will be remedied. its not the apocalypse. >> van just said they did not make it a new law. why is all this starting next month...

Situation on something he had nothing to do with the campaign stop. as he said it to me, i would not ever use those words again towards the president of the united states of america. i should have used better vernacular, as you heard in part of his apology there. in the whole 20 minutes we spoke, it was a ted nugent that i do think actually felt bad for this entire episode in which it probably never would have happened. >> i do not think -- listen, i dont think about ted. >> you dont like him. >...