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Uma: eric, they want to send a strong message. >> they should send a strong message. uma: airing rick, go ahead. >> a pint of sweat will save a gallon of blood. that is the point the government wants to do. i agree with everything fred is saying. you dont buy cigarettes for mine morse. -- minors. however the government will have a difficult situation trying to get conviction in this case. normally the fed indict you by information they have done their homework. in this case the allegations, thes...

That happened two years ago. fred is a very experienced former federal prosecutor. they know normally before they indictment someone they have their ducks in a row. not so in this case. the feds arrested her afterwards. we have sandy hook. columbine, rejuvenation of argument of second amendment. a pint of sweat will save a gallon of blood. they want to stop felons from having people directly or indirectly help them get weapons. >> that is not where the federal form says. that is not what the fed...

You have concurrent jurisdiction. the government and state will both have difficulties with the prosecution. >> uma, what youre watching is why eric is criminal defense lawyer. he wants you to look at a lot of different things. this is very simple. i prosecuted these cases under 1001. i cant count how many felony and possession cases i prosecuted as prosecutor. his second point is right. you have to show that she knew he was a convicted felon. this guy beat his mother to death with a hammer and ...

Well watch this closely. >> all ma, fred, happy new year. jon: less than 12 hours till we ring in the new year as times square gets ready for a big bash and a crush of hugh manty. thousands are gathering. better bundle up. 2013 is coming in with an arctic blast. your new years eve weather forecast next. were hours away from falling off the fiscal cliff. got your parachute handy? holiday cheer is in short supply on capitol hill as the search goes on for a last minute miracle. >> this will not a...

Uma: heap new year to you too. this is very sad and disturbing story were bringing to you right now. as i understand it, dawn wynn was with the gunman at the time these weapons were purchased. fred, what can you tell us about this? >> i can tell you a bunch of things. everybody knows you dont buy cigarettes for a 12-year-old in the grocery store. you dont buy cases of beer for a bunch of 16-year-olds in their car parked in the parking lot of a liquor store. what possessed this woman to purchase ...

Beyond a reasonable doubt. i dont see them having a problem getting a conviction forrer on false statement count. >> i agree. she has to know it was knew issue it was a false statement. >> prove it. uma: look at her statement in and of itself. are prosecutors going after her for simply the fact that she apparently knew what was going on ahead of time? that she is guns were going to be used by this guy and the false statement component as well? >> uma, the issue is, im sorry, fred. i didnt moon t...

It was gone forward before. >> it has gone forward you about to arrest is probable cause. to convict is reasonable doubt. i agree with you, fred but the issue is they need to prove the intent. they have to prove that she knew. it is going to be a court of law. prove it. one thing to make the allegations. it is all of full what happened to those firefighters. they have difficult enough job but the felons shouldnt have guns but she had to know, the government has to prove that she knew he was a fe...