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Hill republicans will let him get away with regarding mueller. and so far there is silence from leadership. the point being republicans might want to step up at this time or we might find ourselves, john heilemann, in a situation where the president tries to fire mueller. is that fair to say looking at the patterns and the lies laid out that this president has participated in? >> entirely fair to say. and i think its -- you run through those facts that you just did, mika, and especially you thin...

Elections could become anymore politicized. >> about this particular issue is what i mean, craig. >> i want to come back to you in a second and talk about nunes. jake, let me bring you in. you talk to any senator now and they bemoaned this nuclear option. why are we here then? if so many detested the idea of it, how did we get here? >> thats a very good question. its been a long road. i tend to agree with everything kasie said. i tend to think that the public, and i think this is what senator mc...

Mueller, they want to make sure they handle it the right way. if this was perhaps part of the presidents attempts to negotiate in public with mueller for the terms of his interview or whether it was a trial balloon to see whether republicans were going to be willing to still defend mueller. that would be an open question. you have republicans backing legislation to try to protect him. they were vocal about it. they had stepped back. this was a test for the president to say, hey, maybe i could do...