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win the battle and lose the war. you know? there is a -- if you discredit or politicize the justice department in the eyes of 60 million americans, you havent gained that much even if youve got these classified documents. so that is the balance that i think and im sure theyre thinking about, which is very difficult. because with anybody else you would just say, look. you broke the law or you seem to have broken the law. we have to get these documents back. >> what strikes me when you s...

Bit of a defining litmus test for the gop. will now the future be how you speak about this search? is that the latest and maybe the next? >> oh, yes. exactly right. great point. that will probably be the new litmus test. i agree with everything ron said. trump has consolidated the party once again. and this may only ratchet that up as well. but the point is, ron knows better than anybody, that midterm elections, the most important thing is enthusiasm among the parties. and i will just say that i...

Such an unusual president republicans are embracing an unconventional midterm environment and that creates -- it leaves a big opportunity for democrats because republicans are aligning themselves with many behaviors that many americans find uncomfortable but theyll have to fight for it. >> interesting, guys. thanks so much. tomorrow, the house minority leader nancy pelosi is got a key interest in everything ron was just saying. she will answer your questions live in a cnn town hall hosted by c...

Climbing. so that sends a message out there that this president is serious about uniting the country, all makes and dont matter where youre from, what you look like, what you got. he kept saying one blood, one nation under god. it was awesome today. >> your enthusiasm is contagious. >> thanks for having me, ali. >> bruce levell, the national diversity coalition for donald trump. and with me now is the former chief of staff to vice president joe biden and vice president al gore. ron, you have sto...

Activism, millions for the womens march, people flooding town hall. we dont have one voice, we have many voices. thats where the strength is. were seeing so much grass roots activism. its not really who in the country should listen to our elected, its our electeds should listen to people on the streets and laying out the kind of things we should be for as a party and as a movement. >> ron, good to talk to you. thank you for being with us, a political veteran. too much time would be taken to expl...

Angrier and angrier and angrier. >> ron, you have been through a few administrations. and one thing democrats have said for eight years, the republicans just dug in and said were not letting this president do anything. now you in january proposed something called a hundred day fight club as a way for democrats to come out swinging against president trumps agenda. is this useful given the complaints that democrats had been republicans? is doing what they did the right idea? >> well, i think its d...

Party. >> to somebody like me who doesnt understand the insides of the party, thats just word salad. i dont know what that means. why will keith ellison do something for the democratic party tom perez doesnt. why would either do anything for the democratic party you heard ron claim to be in some degree of disarray. >> i think what ron was talking about quas the fact that the grassroots of the party had taken control of the party and theyre out there on the streets and organizing and not waiting ...

The idea of the government appointing nigel farage as ambassador to the u.s. or taking him into their counsel is absurd. this is someone who is on the edge of british politics and for him to say hes never heard steve bannon say anything extreme, from where he stands, that may well be true. but he stands in a very different place than most americans would be comfortable with. >> i did find it interesting that he knows steve bannon so well and talked to him throughout the primary campaign. >> well...