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Phone. why? because she was the cousin of abaaoud, the master mind of what happened on friday night and also involved in drug trafficking and that she kept saying especially on the internet that she wanted to commit jihad in iraq in 2004 and 2005. so the french intelligence and special people -- specialized in the terrorist activity, were really interested in her. of course my sources, its because of what she was talking over the phone that they decided to go to saint-denis and to launch the rai...

Before? >> yeah. >> authorities thought he might be in syria or iraq. if, indeed, he was in the suburbs of paris, what does that mean? >> that means, of course, we have the schenngan border problem and problems we point out in the investigation committee. first of all, you have a traffic of passport. real passport. not in turkey. you have a lot of -- >> you make passports? >> no, no, no. real passports. >> real? >> oh yeah. you have a lot of syrian who died in the war and everything so people co...

>> fascinating, fascinating conversation, kate. chilling when she talked about the number of passports, representing now dead syrians. and secondly, the -- my favorite moment was when she talked about how, yes, police and investigators have special powers right now under the state of emergency but we dont want a patriot act. >> yeah. she said it has to be limited in time and not go on forever. but theres that balance as she said between providing people, you know, watching for peoples liberties ...

Committee, and a former air force b-1 bomber driver, i understand. congressman, thank you very much for being with us. same question to you. lets start with the last question i asked dr. kahl. if i tell you im going to put a syrian family on either side of you, theyre going to become your new neighbors and your town is going to absorb 100 families from syria, whats your answer? >> well, i would be deeply concerned about that. i understand, look, we are a compassionate people. we do want to help ...

Fight against isis. and against radical islamic terrorism. you will sign up for an uncertain fate on foreign fields of battle. because your country and the cause of freedom are calling you. >> so, again, this is one of the most explicit calls for a large number, potentially of ground troops to be sent to syria and iraq, to fight isis, that were hearing from many of the candidates. what do the american people think about that? we have new polling data in the last hour from bloomberg. they asked a...

And unless this -- the refugee issue does become more intertwined of whats happened here and i dont think its the case so far, hollande benefited from a good deal of support in france and merkel in germany for showing leadership on the question and for being as brave as he has to say the people have seen war. lets help them. >> quickly, we have raids every night for a few nights. do you suspect more activity tonight? >> no one could have imagined 4:00 this morning in saint-denis. the idea of the...

For u.s. air controllers training with the french in nato to be on the ground in syria against isis. and that would be -- it would better help them targeting the isis targets inside syria. they really want to ramp that up. russia today again hitting raqqah but also told that russia is running out of precision-guided weapons so this could be carpet bombing rather than target bombing and could be civilian targets and the u.s. really stepping up its air strikes, taking out 116 oil tankers today. th...

Double checked but my resources pretty sure she was in the state of panic in the past week. alarming her cousin abaaoud coming back from syria. it is interesting and because she was a woman and the first suicide bomber who was a woman on the soil of france. the second thing is she was born in france. and she was fully determined to do jihad. another information for you, brian, i know you speak with your reporters on ground, on the ground about, you know, the people who died, the people who have ...

Governments, who wibelieve thate is here in paris. abaaoud is a very dangerous isis fanatic. he appears in videos, dragging bodies behind a truck in syria. they thought he was there, and they believe he had masterminded this attack from there. if it is the case that in fact he has managed to make his way, all the way to the heart of europe, and then be part of this campaign against french people. well, then, that will be a surprise to many security intelligence agencies and also frankly somethin...

>> all of which brings us to steve kornacki. because the politics of refugees and the politics of everything syria has made its way into the presidential campaign. >> yeah, thats right, brian. especially today on the republican side. we can start with jeb bush. jeb bush today was at the citadel, the military academy down there in south carolina, in charleston, south carolina. and jeb bush made an explicit call for the use of american ground troops, the use of a large number of american ground tr...