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Data. i think kamala harris is a very electable candidate. there are others who are electable. the american people will ultimately say, yeah, ultimately you cant put all your credence into what polls are saying and media analysts even say. so we have to -- theres another debate coming up a the t-- at te end of july. we have to look at it at a wider mainstream outlet. >> you know, i agree with you. we talk about this all the time. i have to say, im going to dean on this, heres the challenge. ever...