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Civilians purposely, then thats -- that is -- that is a crime. >> but does he think putin will be held accountable? he is meeting with nato defense leaders right now, and i will get a chance to ask him about the critical decisions they are making tomorrow. make sure you tune in for my exclusive interview with defense secretary lloyd austin tomorrow throughout the day on cnn, and the full interview at 10:00 p.m. thank you so much for watching, everyone. our live coverage continues with hala goran...