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With. is that correct? >> yes. the severity of this was increased. what we have learned in the passed in situations like this, you do want to stay away from numbers because its very sense ty and b, you dont know. what you do know are the people that you can see that were injured and those people. you can see the apartment of ambulances that were here. hopefully youll hear from some of the witnesses. we spoke to one witness over the phone. she was headed to class. she said its so bizarre. at one ...