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President zelensky decided that they were not going to issue thatt statement that Rudy Giuliani wanted to include burisma in the 2016 elections, there was no white house meeting. It soon became clear to them that the Security Assistance was also at risk. And that took on a renewed importance for them. Well, following the 25th call, the t july 25th call, ambassador sondland and volker worked closely with mr. Giuliani and the ukrainians to help draft a statement that the president could make, pres...

Interference. >> but was there concern about doing the investigations or what? were they justns supposed to ma a statement about it? what? >> ambassador sondland very clearly testified that all he ever heard mr. giuliani or anyone say is that they only needed the public announcement of the investigations. >> and so did the committee find that without that public statement that there would be no white house meeting? >> yes. >> so>> i was struck by how cle the evidence seems to be on this point. a...