hope hicks, coming on the heels of her testimony. i think for some time she was thinking about making an exit strategy from the white house. she has been very devoted to president trump, his personal life, professional life, business prior to this. now serving in the white house. dana: it s interesting. several reasons one might go into the white house. it is really hard to leave the white house. this is a decision no one makes lightly. you make it reluctantly usually. especially if you want to go out in the middle of a really important year after a lot of accomplishments that the administration finished out the year-round. i think going out on her own terms is really good. she has an incredibly bright future in front of her. she is leaving on good terms with everybody inside the white house, based on the report john roberts just put forward. she is a young woman with a lot of experience that she got in a short. of time. it s an amazing pressure cooker.
moscow is supporting both the massacres but also. in its efforts to bring an end to the syrian civil war if you will not even the risk of a confrontation between these two sides and this would derail its efforts to bring an end to the syrian civil war and give it an exit strategy behind the scenes saying. and damascus have to speak to one of them to resolve this at the moment neither side is in any mood to do this. that was dorian jones reporting for us from istanbul well elsewhere in syria the rebel held suburbs of damascus known as the eastern huta are also under siege government forces have been pounding the area for three days running as reported up to two hundred civilians have been killed the syrian civil defense known as the white helmets released this footage that you re seeing right now purporting to show survivors of shelling carried out earlier today the u.n. is warning eastern ghouta could become a second aleppo. aren t to tell you now about some of the other stories making
come on over. did you guys even think to go in at all? no. were you scared at all? no. no. well, we were a little freaked out. me and josh were like, we have to avoid this truck. hudson said he thought the white van looked suspicious and wanted to call the police. you should always be concerned. and especially your age because you guys think you re so invincible and you think you can conquer the world, but you re most vulnerable. i m so proud of you. thanks. for all you parents, you don t have to be on my kid would never do that to get the message across. our expert says instead of just talking about safety, roll play with your kids and have them act out what they would do in these situations. teach them what to do when somebody approaches you with something interesting, even if it s somebody that you know. what s your game plan? what s your exit strategy? so rather than just drop the kid in the deep end of the pool, you
terrorists? they weren t carrying the large guns that we saw. with just a few words between them, they quickly coordinated an exit strategy. we opened fire towards the door just to scare the terrorists away. then it was time. then we hold fire. then i tell the lady now. and suddenly this young girl appears out of nowhere. and i just call to her to run towards me and she starts running. and immediately i m thinking, what a brave girl. when porsche got up and ran, did you have a moment where you thought, oh, my god. i think i realized that it was precurious, but i was strufting that if they were telling us to run, it was safe. for catherine, it was a gigantic leap of faith. after shielding her daughters, she knew to save them she would have to let them go.
with us we have msnbc contributor mike barnicle, associated editor of commentary magazine noah rothman, washington anchor for bbc world news america katty kay and joining the conversation, senior writer at politico and co-author of the play book jake sherman. so, joe, the thought of doing this all over again, will it amount to something? is it a productive process? at least the way the stage is set now? yeah, i think so. it was a phony war, as i said last hour, borrowing from the first six or seven months of world war ii. it was a three day shutdown and it was a good test for democrats who found out if you re going to start a government shutdown you better have an exit strategy. they didn t have an exit strategy so i think there was some panic yesterday. they said, they can go back to