minister and the head of intelligence are also on the point of departure. now, the government spokesman here says any of those figures who are overseas can t tell us which are away on official business. but the problem is that denial is it s exactly what they told us about mr. koussa last night long after he d got on that plane to britain. the independent newspaper also reporting that up to ten member of the gadhafi regime are currently in talks with the british government about wanting to defect. it s the guardian newspaper that reported one of britain s most trusted aides was recently in britain for confidential talks. it s a sign that gadhafi s regime may be looking for an exit strategy. all of this reporting essentially from the british press, nothing is really confirmed until we hear from the sources themselves. but what exactly the united states might be doing to hasten what is starting to look like the crumbling of gadhafi s political regime, what the u.s. might be doing t
minister and the head of intelligence are also on the point of departure. now, the government spokesman here says any of those figures who are overseas and can t tell us which are away on official business. but the problem is that denial is it s exactly what they told us about mr. koussa last night long after he d got on that plane to britain. the independent newspaper also reporting that up to ten member of the gadhafi regime are currently in talks with the british government about wanting to defect. it s the guardian newspaper that reported one of britain s most trusted aides was recently in britain for confidential talks. it s a sign that gadhafi s regime may be looking for an exit strategy. all of this reporting essentially from the british press, nothing is really confirmed until we hear from the sources themselves. but what exactly the united states might be doing to hasten what is starting to look like the crumbling of gadhafi s political regime, what the u.s. might be doi
to rebels and expect them to know how to use them. it means training, a staging area, boots on the ground and the president s red line. gates said others could do it. by others, meaning france. there s a dispute about the resolution. the head of nato has said he doesn t read the resolution as allowing the rebels, but the u.s. army is saying, yes, it does. brian, there s another aspect to this. it s obviously a two track. i think the united states is hoping all of these defections in gadhafi s circle, the big one, but another over the last 24 hours, then the arming of rebels conversation becomes a moot point. how serious is this? is it really a possibility they could find an exit strategy for gadhafi that didn t involve
we need. there s just no doubt in my mine. our people as harold said, our people are fired up and ready to go like i have never seen them in my 26 years. i m very confident. this is going to be like a mini presidential election in an off year. harold, good to see you. michael, thank you for coming on. thanks for having me. thank you, chuck. up next, wait until you hear donald trump s exit strategy for iraq. actually, there s no exit. it belongs in the sideshow. you ll see it. [ male announcer ] this.is the network.
they re right here. moussa koussa, he s the current former minister and al treki. both have been key lieutenants for years and could offer critical intelligence on the regime and its survival strategy. so now also tonight, a british newspaper reporting gadhafi s son saif perhaps sent an envoy to london maybe to explore an exit strategy. a good place to begin with our nic robertson in tripoli is with this question, any impacts on colonel gadhafi? it must have an impact. we don t have any way of reading it. moussa koussa was a man gadhafi trusted to negotiate over the lockerbie issue, a man he trusted to negotiate over his issues. so it has to have an impact. we know that the tightest circle around gadhafi is his family, his sons, his daughter, but how much of an impact is this having on him, we can t read it, but it must, it must have some impact, john. what about the second circle,