with cash. now, let s be fair. rudy s right. dueling experts i ve been in so many cases and so have you where experts come to different conclusions and the jury has to avail themselves of a lot of argument about context and what makes sense. is it fair to argue in this case that someone equally qualified to you, mr. primeau, could hear it and say eh, could be, do not pay with cash. it s fair to say that, chris. and if you consider the fact that there s two people talking, they re different proximities away from the recorder. when i listened to this key part of conversation, i can hear the words consistently which i believe president trump is saying at a certain distance. so it s the same level. it s the same amplitude. when you hear cohen speak, he s a little bit louder and he s more dominant with the conversation. i used a key tool, an izotope
again. what do you hear the president say? what financing? well, i ll have to pay him something. pay with cash no, no, no. i got check. hey, don, how are you? did you hear the president say we ll pay with cash or did you hear him say do not pay with cash? does it matter? yes. but we ll get into that later. first let s bring in expert ed primeau. ed, thank you very much for working on in the way you have. i know you had to drop things to get to this. so thank you. let the audience know, how long have you been doing this? you re welcome, chris. this is my 34th year as of may this year. 2018. okay. 34 years in the business. how certain are you about what you believe you hear on this tape? i m fairly confident, chris. sound perception, we all have different abilities of hearing sound and hearing speech the way we perceive it. i was in the room all day today.