again. what do you hear the president say? >> what financing? >> well, i'll have to pay him something. >> pay with cash -- >> no, no, no. i got -- >> check. >> hey, don, how are you? >> did you hear the president say we'll pay with cash or did you hear him say do not pay with cash? does it matter? yes. but we'll get into that later. first let's bring in expert ed primeau. ed, thank you very much for working on in the way you have. i know you had to drop things to get to this. so thank you. let the audience know, how long have you been doing this? >> you're welcome, chris. this is my 34th year as of may this year. 2018. >> okay. 34 years in the business. how certain are you about what you believe you hear on this tape? >> i'm fairly confident, chris. sound perception, we all have different abilities of hearing sound and hearing speech the way we perceive it. i was in the room all day today.