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When it comes down is probably about $100 million to $200 million a seat but it has all kinds of extra features to it that we dont really need anymore which is the main reason that the shuttle has finished its task and is being replaced. its painful and dramatic and i think in some areas dangerous process and were going to keep track of it for you. >> in terms of the painful part i know there are tremendous layoffs expected. i think 2800 layoffs i was hearing reported by our colleague jabar berr...