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Mark in "the wall street journal" national poll and how long can you keep in the race with those statistics and numbers? >> i raised more than five people on the debate stage and i have qualified in 12 different polls that the washington establishment and d.c. has chosen not to count. and the fact of the matter is that my message is resonating on the ground and they are the people who will -- >> you have less than one percent in three polls. >> and i have qualified in 12. but the same washington...

Adventurous and inspirational, but was there a tinge of wanting to one-up russia at that point? >> oh, yeah. it is more than a tinge. john f. kennedy did not like to lose. he never lost a race in his whole political career and he first went to congress in 1946, and then got re-elected in 1948 and 1950, and he won the senate in 1952 and won the senate in 1958 and won the presidency in 1960, and then of course died in dallas in 1963, but he never lost, but he felt that we were losing to the soviet...

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