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>> i mean, he doesnt have any acrimony with him. and i think his motivation is to perhaps publicly warn the president. we spoke with him this morning at his apartment and he probably wants to make sure that what he is saying is heard loud and clear. if michael cohen calls you and tries to visit you, make sure he is not wearing a recording device. >> thanks very much. fascinating reporting from you to want. joining us tonigh are gloria borger, white house correspondent julia her sh fed davis. >> ...