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For that matter as well as fee m&a an -- fema are saying this s an expensive problem as well, which should undergird the argument that we can do better to manage the forest and manage the resources that go into rebuilding. since 2005, the country has given $6 billion in fema grants to california to rebuild after these massive fires, thats one nugget to explain why they feel nows the time to get together. arthel: kevin, thank you very much. you can see the full interview with president trump tom ...