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Are politicians to be a part of. i think it shows this kind of mult multi-facetted thing. this is a kind of a new area of philanthropy. these people think as the political thing as a fill a-- philanthropic thing. >> joe ricketts gives all the credit for the philanthropy to his wife, she does everything. talk about a split ticket, he has a daughter who is a gay rights advocate, a son who is governor of nebraska. >> november issue of "town & country," jay, thank you very much. >> thank you!