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Release a transcript? we would know whether or not the president said this once or eight times? how would the white house go about releasing this transcript? >> its veriy easy to. you take out -- redact that sensitive stuff in there and release it. maybe you release only president trumps side of it. you dont release the foreign leaders words on the theory you cant release what a foreign leader says to a u.s. president. they can release donald trumps words. and if they take out one or two things ...

Thing. but they will not say anything. they will not characterize it. why not? and how long can that be left hanging in the breeze? youre going to have to come up with some answer. its find outable. have you asked him? heres the second big implication of this nbc story, and i will leave you with this. mike pence is in trouble. now, it is possible that the vice president did nothing wrong, nothing criminal. but he really has been left out in the cold by the white house when it comes to the michae...