trial, just to be clear. jum trump was on all of the major networks, i want to play a small clip what he said to us. you re saying that asking is action. no, asking is aspirational. it s core free speech. what former president trump did not do is direct vice president mike pence to do anything. he asked him in an aspirational way. asking is covered by the first amendment. jennifer, what are your thoughts about that, asking is it s aspirational is what he says? yeah, actually that s what conspiracy and contempt laws are. you can t say because it didn t work he s actually off scot-free. listen, they can raise this defense, i suppose, if they think it will work. but i don t think the jury will buy it. the first amendment doesn t cover absolutely every single sound that far comes out of a
case that he could do something different for the general election. we will see if he continues to go down this road of talking about the 2020 election. they all want to talk about something else, they have started to talk about joe biden, largely asked by reporters and then sucked and everything that the former presence is, he s trying to carve out an identity, it s very hard to do when trump lords over everything. several republican presidential candidates are increasingly making vice president harris there prime target rather than directly going after president biden. again, this doesn t help them with their current problem, which is that donald trump is sitting on 40% or 50% of the party right now, nikki haley has been going after harris for a while, and they say they want to debate over the black
review the discovery and talk about it however he wants, the first amendment doesn t have a place in a discovery dispute like this but they are sticking with it, there will be a resolution reached here, the judge will be somewhere in between the protective order the government once and some slightly less broad version, probably more broad though than trump one, and that is how judges use decide, somewhere down the middle, it s good that they provide a redline, working with the protective order that jack smith proposed, not saying through the whole thing out, that s a reasonable approach to work with the judge on and i hope they continue in that vein as we move forward with more pretrial litigation. we know that part of the filing is including political bluster is long with the legal argument, how do you expect the judge will rule in this case? when you take out the
over that. we have the discussion but it matters if those things actually occurred or not, john. not under the first it matters not at all fraud no, the first amendment let me stop you there. if he s saying that there were fraud, the first amendment doesn t allow the president of the united states to go and claim there was fraud when he was told there was no fraud and then try to subvert the election by overturning legitimate electors. i mean, it says it right here in the actual indictment absolutely, the first amendment protects all speech. if we re going to have i if we have a situation where they indict politicians for political speech and whether or not they re factually accurate then this country will shut down politically, because it s a never ending cycle of tit for tat and that s the risk of injecting politics into the criminal justice system. so right now people disagree with president trump. what s going to happen four years from now if somebody
the more indictments leveled against donald trump, the more his poll numbers go up. it s just incredible of. todd: joe you are a media guy. first amendment. i want to go to something kaitlan collins said in that soundbite because it s incorrect. she said the first amendment doesn t allow the president of the united states to go and claim there was not fraud when there was not fraud. she is completely wrong about that. if he believed there was fraud and said so, that s what this case comes down to. her or his belief. what was in his state of mind. what does this indictment say in the media coverage about this notion in the left from the media, from the d.c. swamp about how far first amendment protections go and what they ultimately want to do to that first amendment protection? joe: todd, it s purposefully misleading by amateur hour hosts like kaitlan collins and everybody else you see on those other networks. they want donald trump to be in the news because he is the only one who