CNN The Situation Room April 7, 2015 21:35:00
>> to do a fiving expedition. >> you could be phishing, do a man in the middle type exercises where you follow that piece of information back over onto what they would call the high side or classified side in those cyber systems. so, again, they got into the state department clearly by the news that you all broke and then followed it back to the white house. this is exactly the way they do it in the private sector when theyre trying to penetrate companies. this is exactly the way theyre doing it...
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