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Get to where that comes from. why they want to do it that way, but does it work? flints had an emergency manager. >> we already did this in the last decade. flint already did it. it didnt do any good in part because the emergency was 30 years ago. the emergency is long past. our peak employment was 1978. its been downhill ever since. flint and the state of michigan has been going 34 years now through this. >> theres this idea that where theres big problems or theres big challenges, democracy is ...

That are in trouble is that you have to first stop local democra democracy. then you can get to work on fixing these things. >> right. we have to burn down the village in order to save it. >> yes. whether or not it is -- well get to where that comes from. why they want to do it that way, but does it work? flints had an emergency manager. >> we already did this in the last decade. it didnt do any good in part because the emergency was 30 years ago. the emergency is long past. our peak employment ...