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>> thats the reason john kerry is secretary of state rather than president. because in 2004 the issue was in ohio, people got together there, our friend, whats his name, karl rove, got together with don king and got a lot of african-american preachers up in cuyahoga county in cleveland to get their people out, the flock out, the congregations out to vote against this gay marriage thing, and that turned that state. >> constitutional amendments were used as battering rams against progressives -- >...

To get their people out, the flock out, the congregations out to vote against this gay marriage thing and that turned that case. >> constitutional amendments were used against battering rams against progressives -- >> we thought north carolina would be hurt by that. >> first of all, 85 senators voted for doma including joe biden, joe lieberman, chris dodd, tom daschle, barbara -- >> keep going, i love this. >> mikulski. all the liberals. >> john kerry did not vote for it. ted kennedy did not vot...