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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:20:00

the viewers of this network think it s been this evil. i think it s incredibly devastating and sickening look at how cynical they were, how they treated their viewers they don t revere them because they respect them. they fear them because they know they are addicted to the disinformation there s a sickness that is revealed through their internal communications with one another. they don t believe any of this but they will peddle the bs to their viewers. it s like that the guy eats mcdonald s every day the anchors aren t taking this as fact. they know it s bs. they know trump they believe trump is, quote, demonic but they will revere him to the viewers. they will feed them the bs for all of the legal power and importance and relevance, the window into sort of the rot of the most watched cable network, not just on the right but in the

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:10:00

exposure so he will probably never testify. pence, his testimony is extraordinarily important. let me show you one other thing that we know from glenn s coverage and our analysis and watching the public hearings, that the congressional committee produced and put on last summer. the committee was able to get around the edges of this phone call between pence and trump on the morning of trump uses the p-word, based on testimony and news accounts and here is how close the congressional committee without talking to pence or trump who were the two parties on the call, here is how close they got to understanding what went down on that call when i entered the office, the second time, he was on the telephone with who i later found out to be was the vice president. you could hear the vice president or only hear the president s end?

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:02:00

he s a former federal prosecutor, now a law professor at georgetown university so, glenn, we ve been focused on a couple of other things the last few days. but this is more evidence. i guess of two things. one, that jack smith is a heat seeking missile, pursuing the facts and investigation under his purview, and number two, trump and his interests do not prevail very often in the court battles that jack smith engages them in. well it really is just a sharp reminder, a day after people have been criticizing even people who are critics of former president trump has been criticizing alvin bragg for what some call a weak indictment. you don t get any closer to finding out what occurred in the run-up to january 6 and talking to mr. trump s vice president who he was pressuring. i mean, we knew this was coming for a while.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 20:33:00

ever used the word stop the steal in any public statements which would suggest a different understanding and so all of the important contextual things beyond the violence and the attack, the big fraud, the stop the steal, all of that, has a potential for mike pence to be a really important witness for jack smith i mean, glenn, i want to bring you back in on this. i think what tim just said is that mike pence didn t think the election had been stolen mike pence is an important witness in terms of where you want to unearth, where joe biden was the legitimate lawful president-elect and trump is going to use the military to steal voting machines an rudy giuliani to explain it to the country and ron johnson and other yahoos in the congress to rig the certification. of course mike pence didn t

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Transcripts for MSNBC Deadline White House 20240604 21:26:00

the upcoming dominion fox news lawsuit going to trial is just one of the many remarkable legal battles that will be waged this month most of them centered around trump or trumpism. yesterday, of course, marked the historic arrest of an ex-president who was indicted on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records next week, donald trump will have to return to new york where he will be deposed for the second time in new york s quarter of a billion dollar civil fraud suit against him and his kids on april 25th, trump will be in court once again as there s a civil suit where the

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