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Washington as a lobbyist. >>guest: he worked out in the business world and not in banks like romney or in finance, but, he ran a restaurant chain, a pizza chain if a lot of trouble, so, he does really have the credentials to say sheehan outsider but he has transformed that and it is unexpected how he caught on. it is working. you can hear a retail marketing guy in the way he promotes himself. >>shepard: carl has he been able to update that he has an organization in all-important first states or ...