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But he so far has not decided to. so far, laura, he has hesitated and has been willing to negotiate or at least have conversations with people as they have come through moscow. >> well, to extend that analogy of poker, youve got to know when to hold them and when to fold them sometimes. is there an off-ramp? this is a lot of gamesmanship and though were learning there is perhaps the ability to have a force go in with enough force and presence thatif this is not bluff. but is there a way out, or ...

And has been willing to negotiate or at least have conversations with people as they have come through moscow. >> well, to extend that analogy of poker, youve got to know when to hold em and when to fold em sometimes. is there an off-ramp for putin right now? obviously, this is a lot of gamesmanship, and although we are learning that perhaps there is as you mentioned the idea of the ability to have a force go in with enough force and presence that this is not a bluff. but is there a way out or a...