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Ground down. and that looks like to be the strategy for force on force. meanwhile, what theyre doing is putting the humanitarian pressure on -- and theyre going to call on zelenskyy to surrender. >> yeah. general clark, the u.s. has gotten in hundreds of stinger missiles, antiaircraft missiles in the last couple of days. we saw germany pledge 2700 additional man pads as theyre known, shoulder-fired missiles. is the u.s., is nato and the west getting enough weapons in, are these weapons that are ...

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Those that are in al qaeda are largely that followed bin laden, those are old dogs. and the isis folks are motivated by al zarqawis lead. >> so are there guys like you can exploit this rift? when youre fighting terror, can you use the rift within the terrorists? >> absolutely. and you see this a lot. the rgtarguments going back and forth online, you see groups today in somalia killing each other, force on force. we saw that in syria two years back. what i think were concerned about looking forwa...