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Negotiate with, who knew what they wanted and went for it. lyndon johnson comes to mind. >> yeah. >> certainly he had that reputation in congress. i think that once he became president, one of the things that was impressive about his presidency, despite all of the, i think, proper criticism he took over the vietnam war, was that he saw the presidency as a place where you could actually get something done, where it was the time to step forward. even if you were doing something that was against ma...

Lyndon johnson comes to mind. >> yeah. >> certainly he had that reputation in congress. i think that once he became president, one of the things that was impressive about his presidency despite all of the, i think, proper criticism he took over the vietnam war, was that he saw the presidency as a place where you could actually get something done, where it was the time to step forward. even if you were doing something that was against maybe a stance you had had for many many years as a congressma...