been charged with this s cons conspiracy. it might happen in the future she might end up cooperating with the government ex be and ba witness. she s an attorney but there is an exception to the attorney client privilege which is the claim fraud exception. she s been charged with tampering with documents which is a serious charge and a maximum of 20 years in prison. so she has something hanging over her head which may motivate her to cooperate with the government. then before i let you go, disgraced r and b star r kelly saying he won t take the stand in a federal trial in chicago. he s facing 13 counts of production of child pornography and conspiracy to obstruct justice. do you think he ll be found guilty again? i do, jessica. i think the tide turned against r kelly in 2019 when the very
he joins me now. george, we have the big reveal here of what this memo was. and it s create granular and how they envisioned this, say truly, cool being pulled off. what is your impression of it? absolutely, the judge was absolutely right to order released under the crime fraud exception, it was an attempt to completely overturn the election, and refused to apply the electoral count act, which under the 12th amendment governs the counting the vote by congress, not that the president. there s even a sentence where a phrase leading into the paragraph, in the mother says any of the outcome sketched above seems preferable to allowing the electoral count act to operate by its terms. hey, they re basically saying, do anything but allow the law to operate the way it literally
there was a shocking ruling from the judge in a civil case, between john eastman, one of the authors of one of the coup memos. he was trying to prevent the committee from getting hands on his emails, because he was a lawyer, and he says well this stuff was privileged and the judge denied his request and saying it was more likely than not that president trump and dr. is eastman dishonestly conspired to obstruct the joint session of congress. meaning that it was probably criminal and part of the crime fraud ex deception. one of the documents in question, that was forwarded to eastman. the judge ruled that, quote, it was subject to the crime fraud exception, and the court rules it to be disclosed. now the crime fraud exception
is exactly what it sounds, like you did not get attorney-client privilege for documents that may have you been used to commit a crime. thanks to that, ruling we have that document, the crime fraud exception smoking gun, it is yet another, memo a how to manual to overturn the election. it lays out a plan to halt the certification of joe biden s victory on january 6th. this memo raises a whole new set of questions, including the role that chuck grassley played his pro tempore of the senate. because this scheme, laid out in a kind of instructional fashion would ve essential work like this, the vice president announces he will now serve as a presiding officer, and the absence the president pro tem pore acts as president of the senate, weathers chuck grassley another senior republican. a prominent lawyer and former republican resulted in the release of this new memo, he wrote an opinion piece in the washington post, a federal judge said trump probably committed a crime. the doj can t igno
john eastman s emails. eastman continues to claim attorney/client privilege. let s discuss with former federal prosecutor elie honig. it s important to note the committee can t prosecute. so this isn t an indictment. what is the significance? not an indictment but very, very important. here s how we got here. so the committee wants to get access to emails between donald trump and this attorney, john eastman. this is the attorney who came up with the idea of we can have mike pence unilaterally reject some of the votes and steal the election. eastman saying those are protected emails. they are privileged. can t have them. the committee is saying, oh, no, no, there s an exception called the crime/fraud exception. if the emails involve communications about a crime or fraud, the committee can get them. so the committee alleges that they have evidence and information available to the committee establishes a good-faith belief, meaning the