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At the end of the day all the kid did was pass on the instructions -- >> if im sitting on that plane and the kid is talking to my pilot, i would be a little bit upset. jim hall what, do you say? >> well, theres no doubt it was a embarrassment to the air-traffic controllers across the country and i agree with fred that its a professional group of men and women. it reflected a tremendous breach in the professional conduct that you would expect in a work setting of that importance to safety. >> but...

Embarrassment and reflection -- >> the rules are there for a reason. >> they are but i spent a lot of time in control towers too and its a dangerous and serious job. >> youre making my argument. >> let me finish. the other part is not every second of every day. in the circumstance of this case, that was one of the though days. >> you never know, fred, when an emergency is going to top up just like that. fred, jim, good discussing, thank you so much. >> thank you. were hearing the 911 calls mad...

System. thats why we are so careful in terms of procedures and operations. i am very concerned about the -- not just this individual controller but the fact that this was not self-reported. this information was -- >> you know what, fred, remember the hudson crash between two planes, nine people tied. distraction in air-traffic control contributed to that problem allegedly. then the buffalo crash, the pilots were engaged in breaking the rule by the way in a distracting conversation. >> ive -- i r...

He could have been showing them instruments over here and not watching the screen as you should be there. >> wait, theres no screen to watch. these guys are looking out the window. they cleared the airplane into position and all the boy did was give takeoff clearance. we have -- the other side of this equation is you have professional pilots in the cockpit. if i had a nickel for every time i got be a instruction i didnt agree with -- >> jim, i was always under the impression the air-traffic cont...

>> okay. >> contact. >> the -- >> jetblue 38 contact departure. >> departure jetblue 38z this story sparked a debate, is it cute or potentially dangerous distraction. joining us, fred tees and the former chairman of the ntsb, jim hall. fred, let me start with you. as i understand it youre saying no harm, no foul. >> i am saying no harm, now foul. i spent 30 years flying airplanes around this area and we have a tremendous air-traffic control system. what these guys did was a bone head move becaus...