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Leslie clark, former supreme allied commander of n.a.t.o. general, what do you make of the suleman choice, the backup guy, i guess? >> well, i think its a safe choice for mubarak, he has someone who is experienced in international affairs, someone he trusts, someone he he works closely with. im not sure that its an adequate choice for anything other than a temporary leader of the government. if this is going to work, omar sulemans got to go out publicly, hes got to form a technocratic government...

New vice-president? >> general suleman was a military officer and former long time head of the egyptian external service which is a very good intelligence service, our cooperation with them in the 90s for example, all, but destroyed zawahiris, but i think its a mistake. mubarak has remained in power primarily because general suleman inducted much of the security service that has protected mubaraks government over the past decade. >> now, has he ever-- mubarak, had a vice-president himself in 30 ...

Nixon and spiro agnew had to rye sign and appointed one universally on both sides, democrats and republicans, named gerald ford and both sides trust $and in the event of richard nixons eeventually impeachment or resignation, that was accepted by the american people and gerald ford became president. night and day, apples and oranges, but omar suleman has been appointed vice-president of egypt and could be groomed as a successor, it is not a slam-dunk that he would get that job, that people obviou...

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Conflict. >> youre right about that. >> this is very, very, this is truly a matter of people who have had enough and as the first graffiti splashed on the berlin wall and yogi berras words said, the future aint what it used to be. >> neil: thank you very much, ambassador. you see right now, and mubarak and suleman, the new vice-president, a big deal, a big deal.

The scenes. so, there needs to be a plan for elections of some type, maybe an international commission to look at corruption, and all of those things, omar suleman can do, if he does them, but if he attempts to hold on lid on and the policies with a different face on top, its going to be very difficult. >> well, hes obviously not the peoples choice. and they like the noble lawyer yacht under house arrest right now and that doesnt mean that he is the peoples choice, it just-- his house arrest, ac...