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There is a tech firm that maintains the internet service supporting the president of the united states. the guy who is the current national security advisor who just lost the election with hillary gets his campaign lawyer to hire the tech firm to hack into the white house to do get dirt on a sitting president in an effort to show the 2016 election was stolen by russia. and that same guy, jake sullivan now running around hyping up war with russia how we believe a word he says? in october 2016 thi...

>> rob, and then jill. >> yeah, thats not the same as asking them to talk about it as it is to have a concerted effort like the russians did in 2016 to try to actually control the election or to get information out on a political opponent that would ultimately, possibly sway election. thats a very different thing. they ask that question. he didnt answer that question. >> fair. jill? >> well, first of all, i think we should be careful. ive been saying say this, not that. there is a hash tag on tw...

Needs to be slammed down. the next democrat president of the united states must be impeached. >> youre dealing with people that have been and continue to be obsessed with one thing and one thing only, and that is destroying your duly elected president. >> rob? >> yeah, this is, you know, its -- if this was just a fringe and it was just reaching a small sliver of the population, you say okay, its crackpots. its people -- what they used to call the lunatic fringe. but these are mainstream reports ...

From two separate silos and being stuck in those silos or bubbles, as jill points out. but i would say that even though there was an agreed upon set of facts during nixon, you also had alexander butterfield. you had john dean coming in front of the public, who was the white house counsel saying certain things that resonated with the public. and i submit that if you had mick mulvaney, white house chief of staff trying to explain why they held up that military aid to the ukraine and they have john...

>> when you look at the direct evidence they have, withholding the money and asking for the biden investigation, do you think it is wrong for a president to ask for an investigation of a rival like that? >> yeah. i heard your previous segment, and i heard rob reiner and your discussion you had with him. he said if youre digging up dirt and youre trying to affect the outcome of an election coming forward, look, none of that is in this record. its just not. if anybody watched the 14 hours of our j...

On -- or potential dirt on a political rival to affect an election, that somebody outside america should come in and affect our election? none of them would say that was okay, and none of these republican senators or congressmen say its okay. >> or should say its okay. take a look, since youre teeing it up. you didnt know we had this ready. on the one hand you had folks saying i just dont want the deal with it. lets talk about something else. and then folks where the goalpost was moved. senator ...

Today that a quid pro quo most certainly did occur. and that he -- ambassador sondland was propounding it. >> he didnt directly connect the quid pro quo to president trump, though. does that provide the president with some cover here. >> i dont think so. we have -- we have the presidents own words in the transcript of the phone conversation of july 25th with the new president of ukraine. and we have lots of other testimony corroborating that it was the will of the president. and it was directly ...

Enforcement official to safe guard him the way he believed robert f kennedy as attorney general had done for his brother john f. kennedy and how eric h holder junior had for barack obama. mr. trump asked where is my roy moore? the president is referring to this personal lawyer also top aide through the 1950s aids against communism. cohn was known a tough courtroom battler. now, with me is julie. there is a lot in this "new york times" times piece. a sides from what we just reported, this attempt...