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That prigozhin demonstrated to people who are reading telegram channels, who are watching putin on tv, who were in the streets of rostov, a very large and very important city where the headquarters, the southern headquarters of the russian military are -- they were seeing that someone else wields armed power in russia. thats what makes a difference. >> right, yeah, that makes sense. i guess putin lost, i dont know if confidence is the right word, but lost someone that he perhaps trusted a bit wi...

Call russia a hard target for intelligence gathering. i want to read to you what one of the sources familiar with this kind of latest effort said to us at cnn that i think gets at the challenge of this dynamic. this official said to us that everything that the u.s. has in term of putins mental state in the realm of conjecture because the decisions and statements dont seem to be making sense. for years, decades, putin has acted according to a pretty specific template. so, you know, jim, i think t...

Escalation of this conflict beyond what it already is, brie. i cant get inside putins mind to figure out what his next step is going to be. he chlearly wants to control ukraine. hes going after major population centers and trying to move on kyiv. what he may be thinking about in addition to that, we cant know. what we dont want to see is an escalation of this conflict, certainly not in the nuclear realm, whether nuclear power plants being attacked or nuclear weapons being used. there is no reaso...

By cutting off relations. but i think putin in a way is saying, well, we could rely on more on china economically, militarily, et cetera. our coordination with china could increase. but i think right now this is putins hard bargaining. he is saying, im serious about this. where his bottom line is, i think it basically is dont expand nato. dont come into my neighborhood. dont let ukraine certainly get into nato. and dont bring weapons that threaten russia close to our border. i think that is the ...

They are worried the rest of europe will give up too much that would allow the baltics to feel less safe. all of that is going on. when they announce that kind of plan, they are talking to baltics, nato allies. i wish theubgd do it now versus waiting until the action begins. but i think that would send a very clear message to putin as well. we havent quite gotten there yet. i hope that happens >> jill, given putin seems to be testing the biden administrations resolve, do you think biden is being...

He has crimea. hes still been disruptive in the west part of ukraine. a new shock troupe called cyber attacks and disruption. all of that plays in the favor, in his mind, in the decisions hes going to make in the next days or weeks. >> help us get inside putins head here. he knows the u.s. is not going to get militarily involved directly should he invade ukraine. so when he said it were to be a colossal mistake, why does he think thats a strong card to play? it is the only card there is. >> it i...

Where the senator said he couldnt vote for the bill as it was, they were talking again. we are confident we can continue to work on delivering this essential relief to the american people. >> the white house did put out a scathing statement after that. well see where things go in the new year. thank you so much for joining us this morning. we hope you have a great new year. . >> happy new year. >> you too. thank you. up next, relation president putin telling president biden imposing sanctions ...