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>> final question is how do you get this done? it seems like you should say until noç circumstances will w have any budget cutting at all going forward. thats it, were not -- you know, they love to declare things off the table all the time, right? until you put this on the table, were not having a conversation. is that actually possible in washington? >> well, i certainly believe that since all of the $21 billion well save by taking away thinks subsidies to big owl will go to the deficit, that...