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And still to come, well fog there. in those conditions, who makes visit a mississippi town that the call a go or no go, is that has not been the same since a massive immigration raid this the pilot, air traffic control? summer. the family is now without work >> well, it is the pilots call and living in fear. first and foremost. youre live in the "cnn and charter pilots understand newsroom." that one of the great things that you have to avoid is get thereitis. people that chartered the plane want...

Along with the captain who says heres the route, here the fuel, the baggage, the number of people. all this is good to go. lets go. >> in this case leaving it all to the pilot is not the way it is done here. it takes away a level of safety. what theyre talking about is a face to face meeting with the weather officer which does seem to be a little bit anachronistic. there are other ways to get that. i dont think this crew took off without checking the weather. i dont think thats true. when you co...

Cousin all three were dead. >> and decided to backtrack the way she came. pretty quickly, i find the going is tough. >> downed tree limbs everywhere. the brush is incredibly dense. branchs snag as you move while needle like thorns tear at your clothes. even in broad daylight ditches and pools of water. the brush swallows you quickly leaving you disorient and blocking the view of any hand marks. as i struggle i constantly remind myself i was ready for this. how could an injured, traumatize asked ...

Things. this shows an overall level of laxness. >> it is not something you check. it is what hams in the first place. look they had lost permission to fly every day relatively recently. so somebody knew that they shouldnt have been flying every day. and lets face it. theres enough blame to go around in indonesia. the indonesian regulators clearly should have been more on top of this to know they didnt have permission when they gave ground. >> there is another issue. the pilot apparently evaluate...

Something called a level six thunderstorm. it is the worst. >> reporter: did the pilot feel pressure to keep to the schedule in what has become one of the busiest air markets in the world? >> is it common for pilots to feel they must go even in bad weather? yes. thats why theyre reported in the united states. we call it by the way get there-itis. >> reporter: 36 minutes into the flight, the pilot asked permission to turn and climb above the storm. while dispatchers were checking the position of ...

>> kyung lah, thank you so much. now our aviation analyst, mile obrien, david quest, and the upcoming book why the plane dissxaerd why it is only a matter of time before it disappeared. to some it may seem like a technicality. this is a big deal. >> yes, it is a technical thing that they didnt have permission on a sunday when they had permission on four other days. and as early as the middle of last year, they did have permission to fly every single day. it was withdrawn because of capacity cons...

Be new regulation about what kind of weather the planes fly through. mary makes the point of get there-itis. >> i think one of the things to think back to this, the pilot has at his disposal to declare a emergency. he could have declared an emergency and overruled the controller. >> exactly. >> so i think as far as getting around yes, i agree with that with marys thought of the fact it was rising faster than the climb race makes sense. >> but if he declared an emergency, it would have taken time...

We dont know if it happened here -- pressure by the airlines to go. we call that get thereitis. >> how much pressure is there? >> the airlines know thats a touchy thing, especially with safety concerns obviously. but more pilots have a mission packing type philosophy and we want to get our mission done. that being said we dont have any problems saying we cant go there. and if necessary we declare an emergency. we say unable that route, we need a heading to such and such and we deal with the pape...