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Question, anderson. >> jeff, i appreciates it more on what an fbi investigation is equipped to uncover and how the fact finding process can and should be reconciled with the political process and the constitutional framework for the senates duty to advise and consent. former federal judge nancy get yourner. if theres no nonpartisan investigation as it seems likely at this point, should ford agree to appear at a hearing on monday in your in your opinion? >> its a political issue to some degree. i...

Clean. theres no issue, no collusion. and i think theyre setting standards and requirements that they know mueller cant meet that mueller would not meet to justify no conversation with mueller, tolet mize that. i cant imagine mueller has all the cards here. he doesnt have to agree to any of this. >> matt miller and nancy get yourner, good to have you both. as we said, house speaker paul ryans admission yesterday hes seen no evidence of a spy planned in the trump campaign has opened the floodga...

Does problem a subpoena to the president, does problem a report being released to congress, other little things along the way. they want to put just enough pressure maybe some decisions go their way. >> does that make sense to you, nancy? >> i think more is going on here. i think there is no way on earth that any credible lawyer would recommend that trump give an interview to mueller. nobody would ever do that. i think theyre creating a series of trip wires here so that they can say over and ove...

Over and over about destroying evidence that you just talk about destroying evidence. for the latest on the efforts to derail the trump probe, matt miller, spokesperson during the obama administration and retired federal judge nancy get yourner, senior lecturer at harvard law school. matt, the conspiracy theories have gotten increasingly baroque and sort of hard to even track or follow, and increasingly discredititied. theres like a full-court press over there right now that only intensifies day...

To little bits and take the sim cards out, how would that work out for all the people robert mueller is requesting phones from. >> my advice to them not really kidding, bad advice, would be follow hillarys you know lead. delete them, acid wash them, bust them up, take out the sim cards and say here, mr. mueller. im following hillarys lead. >> please, hes making people nervous. >> boom, crack it up and ansay here, mr. mueller. courtesy of hillary. >> its just a joke that you say over and over abo...