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2016? >> 2016 is a tough call. i dont know. its hard to look down the road. if the court rules that way, if more states continue -- were very close in illinois, rhode island, minnesota, delaware. all of these states. >> who would you recommend the next republican candidate for president, he or she, once theyre on the platform, nominee, should they support marriage equality? is it smart to echo the democratic nominee, if its hillary clinton, has already done it? >> i think so. i really think when...

Reason. theres something apparently about this constitution they find offensive. because it doesnt -- >> what do you make of the answer by ted olson, whos a pretty smart fellow, making this case. he said, it was constitutional when we as a culture determined that sexual orientation is characteristic of individuals they cannot control. remember trent lott saying you have to make a decision? decide whether youre gay or straight. >> it used to be called a disease. >> yeah. >> weve come a long way t...

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>> how about next time? 2016? >> 2016 is a tough call. i dont know. its hard to look down the road. if the court rules that way, if more states continue -- were very close in illinois, rhode island, minnesota, delaware. all of these states. >> who would you recommend the next republican candidate for president, he or she, once theyre on the platform, nominee, should they support marriage equality? is it smart to echo the democratic nominee, if its hillary clinton, has already done it? >> i think...

Youre not going to address it, are you? >> that would make your day if they did. no. youre not going to have that. i was amused by karl roves musing on the weekend that he could see the 2016 republican nominee, you know, expressing openly his support for gay marriage. i dont believe -- >> thats funny because rove ran that ohio campaign. 2004. >> right. exactly. i dont believe at this point that that is necessarily going to be the case. my caution is this, to the democrats. not that im one to cau...

Lot of these issues, i think we do. i do think its always better when the public will coincides with the rights. but sometimes the wub lick will is a little slow. i agree with you on those cases. the civil rights act and voting rights act were powerful because they had the power behind them of both political parties, of lyndon johnson and heavy support by the republican party, by the way, at the time. they were amazingly influential. i also think sometimes the supreme court has to get ahead and ...

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