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Up with see the world and, say, folks in california and new york. that is true, and that does influence the media. so i give you that point. but this is being exploited, and its being used, and its being weaponized in a way that i think goes beyond the facts and goes beyond whats fair. and the danger is once you get to a point now where then you have half the country that believes that good, hard-working, mostly broke journalists at places like, you know, cbs news are a part of some conspiracy a...

Youre the one that put out the pj thing. so what got this whole thing started is not an honest set of concerns about the lack of transparency, which left and right share. its not an honest concern about too much power for silicon valley, which more people, right and left, are beginning to have. its a cheap line that has now taken off on the right that theyre out to get us in particular. and the reality is there is no evidence for that. you can cherry pick a bunch of things but -- >> hey, van, le...

Relayed the information, so were not dealing with some vacuum of knowledge. >> of course we are. we dont have the context of it. we werent in the meeting. >> all right. so van, context aside, because i see that as an excuse, not an explanation here. violence, violence. if you people win, van, youre coming for the gop. >> well, that sounds to me like panic on the part of the president trying to stir up his own base with baseless fears. thats unfortunate. listen, donald trump has achieved some pre...

From one party to another. >> yeah. >> but saying its violence. do you think thats the right thing for a president to do, to scare people like that about the outcome of an election? >> chris, i dont think that -- hopefully there wont be violence and -- >> im not saying what the outcome is going to be. i agree with you. should the president go to people and say help me because if we lose theres going to be violence? >> i dont know the full context of the conversation and what he said out there, c...