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Fisa warrant, then shame on whoever manipulated -- >> sean: jail time. >> you know, lets cool it a little bit. i think first of all, congratulations -- >> sean: im cool as a cucumber. i think that you -- but for your efforts, i think this whole issue would have died away. now, if indeed, the steele dossier is the basis for the fisa warrant that got carter page that ultimately trap general plan, that because the president all of thiss turmoil, upset, and distraction, then shame on the dnc, shame ...

Really is possibly the most important player in this whole thing because that is where an obstruction of justice case would reside? >> exactly. i mean, the other thing scarier is mueller coming after kushner. >> thats right. >> other than family, this is the most perilous indictment for donald trump. >> julia, we need your speed reading assessments of the carter page transcript. this is a house intelligence committee interview conducted of carter page on thursday. what do we know at this point? ...

Carter page transcript. this is a house intelligence committee interview conducted of carter page on thursday. what do we know at this point? i know its hundreds of pages long. >> it is. luckily, i have the help of a lot of my colleagues here at nbc. we are all sort of piecing this apart and sharing the first things standing out and the first thing jumping out are how many people on the trump campaign knew that carter page was going to russia in july of 2016. so far that looks like corey lewando...

Thats gulen, the muslim cleric, opponent of turkish president erdogan. that, of course, would be a huge breach and completely illegal to allow another country to bribe, we understand that he may have been offered millions of dollars, to allow another country to bribe someone in a position to influence that policy. those decisions, extradition or other means, are not supposed to come from someone at the white house and supposed to come through diplomatic, non-political channels. >> julia, i want ...

Position to influence that policy. those decisions, extradition or other means, are not supposed to come from someone at the white house and supposed to come through diplomatic, non-political channels. >> julia, i want you to keep reading the carter page transcript which i know you have in front of you. well come back to you on that in just a moment. i want to go to gene robinson to talk about where the jury that really matters is on this and that is, of course, american voters. we have a very i...

Looking over showed that jeff sessions heard that carter page was going, of course, in passing. every conversation carter page had in the year of 2016 was in passing. if you look at some of these -- if you look at the interview that he had with the house intelligence committee. but it seems clear that a lot of these people, including people like sessions who said that they had no knowledge of anyone on the campaign ever talking to russians, its clear that thats going to be a harder position to d...

Contact with russian government officials. we are going on the air tonight and just released tonight. well have more tomorrow as we continue to plow through them. that does it for us tonight. thank you very much for being with us. see you again tomorrow. now its time for "the last word with lawrence odonnell" with the great lawrence odonnell. >> we have a reporter studied the transcript. >> oh good. >> you know, what about -- what about say, you come over here and read carter page, i read trey g...

He page insists he believes he was working in new york and shared only basic immaterial information on the energy policy. in doing so i provided him nothing more than a few samples from the far more details i was providing. >> you might be announcing your foreign policy advisor soon. >> weve got carter page ph.d.. >> reporter: the russian spy was part of that same spy ring as another russian employment by v.e.b. bank, the state-sponsored russian bank whose representedive met with jared kushner a...

A back channel of communication between trump and russia. there were people who had direct contact with russians known to u.s. intelligence. jared curb her, jeff sessions, manet forth, roger stone, j.d. gordon and carter page now and erik prince. jim sciutto is out front. jim, these are new meetings and the timing of some of these meetings is raising red flags, right? >> reporter: thats right. i spoeblg to a congressional intelligence source who told me theres a number of things. the time of the...

Quote, was working and he got scared, and that carter told him to get back in. and potentially the most damaging evidence, carter asked roy to delete the messages she sent him before killing himself. soon after his death, she tells a friend that if police quote, read my messages with him, im done. >> if she really loved him as she said she did, why didnt she try to persuade him not to? every day you wake up and think, you know, why? why? why? >> reporter: in response, michelle carters attorney s...