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Terrorist attacks by kurds in turkey. but to paint the kurds with such a broad brush -- >> right. >> -- seems just myopic. it just seems unfair. >> it is. you think about like 13 million or 15 million kurds in turkey. iraq has around 6 and syria around 2. its a big population, and there is an issue with the pkk, this terrorist group. and, you know, turkey has every right to defend itself against terrorist attacks. but the idea that we would actually supply -- stand with the kurds, who are not pk...

Chase every trump charge down a rabbit hole, but you cant let something take hold, and youve got to push back. and i think hes done that. i agree with david also that he has been late on impeachment. this should have come earlier. i would argue, though, that some of the candidates were too early on it. its critical that the public doesnt see this as 1998 revisited, as a partisan act to punish the president and remove him, but as a constitutional act to keep him from doing more harm from the coun...

Particular. a strategy of going after them and trying to intimidate them works when youre in a position of strength. his position is weakening day by day. so i dont know that that will work. you know, in 1998 with president clinton, we focused almost all of our efforts on democratic senators because thats -- you know, thats what protected us. but i completely agree with what davids saying. you know, the big difference between then and now is this president is consumed with it, and hes letting th...

With the united states because they believe in us. they could easily have turned to iran. they could have easily turned anywhere else. they stood with the united states of america and because of a conversation with a basically dictator, president trump pulled 50 soldiers, 50 people back, and those 50 people were holding back a turkish attack. im sure every one of them were in tears when they heard this, these 50 special operators are watching this horrified as we all are. >> i think the point yo...

Whistle-blower was in cahoots with anyone and the president offered none. as for the claim that the account of the call is radically different from the transcript, thats not true either. the very first words on it after ukrainian president zelensky inquires about aid, is president trump saying, id like you to do us a favor though, followed by pressure to investigate the bidens and a 2016 conspiracy theory. faced with evidence in the presidents own words, on the presidents own transcript that con...

Slaughter. hes caused alarm among other allies in the region and hes triggered a rebellion among lawmakers. whatever you think of the presidents statements, decisions, or policies writ large, does any of this look like anything but a president determined to say and do what his gut and no one else tells him? to say and do anything to protect himself? i misspoke on what he said to zelensky. he said to do -- i would like you to do us a favor. perspective now from former national security adviser su...

Ambitions in the territory that the kurds believe is theirs. >> two quick points. on the endless wars things that you hear from now the president, but rand paul for forever, its not our choice to do an endless war. its really been the terrorists. theyre the ones that havent changed their goals. they havent changed what they wanted to do. and secondly, look, 50 american troops there, this is exactly what people like the president and like rand paul and some of those were advocating for when they ...

Table issues. health care is not in my wheelhouse right now. gun control is not an issue. its this. in that vein, that has an impact on -- the larger issue of abuse of power, thats still going to be there. the more he abuses it, the more ammunition they get. >> im not sure gun control or health care has ever been in his wheelhouse. evan, what more are you learning about the presidents overall view of this impeachment fight? >> he looks at this as a purely political thing. that is why in his phon...

For president trumps impeachment. >> to preserve our constitution, our democracy, our basic integrity, he should be impeached. we have to remember that impeachment isnt only -- isnt only about what the presidents done. its about the threat the president poses to the nation if allowed to remain in office. >> president trump later called the comments, quote, pathetic. back with me are david gergen and joe lockhart. david, what do you make of the former vice president coming out publicly in support...

Thats how he has arrogated to himself so much power. hes got several tactics that he repeats. one, lie, lie, lie. two, confuse, deflect. three, what were seeing in this biden thing is take what is trumps greatest weakness, the perception that hes corrupt, that his children are corrupt, that they abuse the office to enrich themselves, and try to make it his opponents greatest vulnerability. >> when you went on the sunday shows and talked about the early reports and the intelligence community asse...