Exploring issues that affect leaders in the U. S. And around the globe. Penalties are even higher, the evidence is even more volume nous, or will he cut his losses, cut a deal and tell what he knows if anything about potential collusion between donald trump and the Russian Election interference effort . Let me bring in the panel now. I want to get to my legal experts, more of my legal experts. By the way, a little more breaking news, the Cohen Hearing is officially over. Sentencing is scheduled for December 12th for his guilty plea at 11 00 a. M. Hes out on 500,000 bail which was cosigned by his wife and a second person. Were going to go there. But Donald Fryman is is on Air Force One on his way to West Virginia to prepare for a rally for the West Virginia senate race. How is he feeling . We think hes emotionally and politically in as much of a corner psychologically as hes been since hes become president of the United States. Hes worked very hard to get at
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to the white house the white house legal team took pity on me after i attempted to explain why trump s name wasn t mentioned. so he s calling in real time. it is in fact that s why we have mimi rocca. it s generally not done. but he added a political twist here. because he said it s not appropriate for a prosecutor to malign someone who is not before them. this is an effort tonight anti-comey. to not shoot your mouth off and be political but to play this spriktly by the book. that s what the prosecutors were doing there, they were being restrained. the president has tweeted. just landed in virginia. big crowd. you re seeing him walking down now. shelley moore capito. look forward to seeing the big crowd. and hashtag maga. it s going to be an epic night from the president we think. absolutely.
secret. we will never know the words that were exchanged in reaching this final agreement. we may get the plea in open court but the cooperation may pour now remain a mystery. danny, stick with me here. i ve got mimi rocca on the phone, a former u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york. all right. i know speculating you don t want to speculate too much, but give a sense of what s likely, what kind of cooperation has been agreed to. you ve seen what he s agreed to plea to and as howard fineman points out to me, he s pleading already to cooperation. he fingered the president. so in some ways we get what the prosecutors some of what the prosecutors got out of this. but mimi, what do you think is happening behind the scenes? well, chuck, i think danny s right. when we see the documents, if and when we see the documents, the plea agreement, we ll know a lot more in the sense of is it formal cooperation, which i know there had been some reporting that that wasn t happening.
cannot be used against someone else, the guilty plea, but it makes it more possible now for prosecutors to do something they don t normally like to, do which is subpoena a witness who isn t a cooperating witness. and mimi, what about that is a possibility now too. what about the other stuff? the other stuff in this case of michael cohen includes the at&t, the novartis, all that the pay to play investigation portion. is that are we to assume that s just not been dealt with yet or that s with michael cohen there is a lot of sort of rivals. you make a really good point, chuck. i think there s a couple of different options and we just don t note answer yet as frustrating as that is. one is this is a plea to certain charged in a certain area and they re going to deal with the rest of it later. that may signal that he s going to start offering and talking to the government in a more extensive way but they wanted to get this done now and sort of put their stake down on this.