Exploring issues that affect leaders in the U. S. And around the globe. Penalties are even higher, the evidence is even more volume nous, or will he cut his losses, cut a deal and tell what he knows if anything about potential collusion between donald trump and the Russian Election interference effort . Let me bring in the panel now. I want to get to my legal experts, more of my legal experts. By the way, a little more breaking news, the Cohen Hearing is officially over. Sentencing is scheduled for December 12th for his guilty plea at 11 00 a. M. Hes out on 500,000 bail which was cosigned by his wife and a second person. Were going to go there. But Donald Fryman is is on Air Force One on his way to West Virginia to prepare for a rally for the West Virginia senate race. How is he feeling . We think hes emotionally and politically in as much of a corner psychologically as hes been since hes become president of the United States. Hes worked very hard to get at
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i don t know it s more lethal than stormy daniels. it was probably more lethal to his family relationships potentially and, you know, on the terms of the timing of it. right. in terms of the fact, you re right, it was a real relationship, it was long-term, long-term for trump in terms of relationships assuming all of it is true. you know, so from that vantage point, you know, somebody who is emotionally wounded is more likely to say very damaging things at press. howard, the president is accused of being a liar by his long-time personal lawyer. is the country surprised? no. does this what is we know what fall out would be in another era. i think we re all trying to figure out, is this guy immune to this? no other president could survive this. the laws of physics don t apply to politics. a pendulum starts swinging in real life, it slows down. but in politics sometimes, and
secret. we will never know the words that were exchanged in reaching this final agreement. we may get the plea in open court but the cooperation may pour now remain a mystery. danny, stick with me here. i ve got mimi rocca on the phone, a former u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york. all right. i know speculating you don t want to speculate too much, but give a sense of what s likely, what kind of cooperation has been agreed to. you ve seen what he s agreed to plea to and as howard fineman points out to me, he s pleading already to cooperation. he fingered the president. so in some ways we get what the prosecutors some of what the prosecutors got out of this. but mimi, what do you think is happening behind the scenes? well, chuck, i think danny s right. when we see the documents, if and when we see the documents, the plea agreement, we ll know a lot more in the sense of is it formal cooperation, which i know there had been some reporting that that wasn t happening.
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