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Meetings was the importance of a north korea in the future for american foreign policy. so i think that has been on his mind since the first moment that he was elected. and i think hes looking at this in a -- very much like reagan did. it can happen in the first meeting, but it doesnt have to. the first meeting is going to be about establishing a relationship, i think to get to know each other a little bit, and maybe that will produce a second summit and a third summit. >> harris: you know, i se...