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Outsider and to come if and bring some change. >> and because hes so pastoral. working among the people. and literally in the trenches. thats going to make a difference. we heard people didnt want a theologyian insider. it was so interesting to me, and this is probably a sin against humility, im going to say it anyway. on february 25th i tweeted why isnt anyone talking about cardinal bergoglio? why isnt anyone talking about him this time? and people told me well, hes too old. eight years later, ...

Time, not this time. so when he walked out to that balcony, i thought wow. this group saw something in this man that they think the church needs now and they said were going to give him to you. >> he wasnt in discussion. earlier chris cuomo said on our air he talked to a retired cardinal and the retired cardinals advice to chris was you need to focus on bergoglio. youre missing out that you havent been discussing him. i dont know the source, which retired cardinal it was. he was certainly right ...

Has not actually worked in the vatican. hes not part of the vatican bureaucracy which is significant. a, he could be elected and also what that might mean for his ability to come in and he is an outsider and to come if and bring some change. >> and because hes so pastoral. working among the people. and literally in the trenches. thats going to make a difference. we heard people didnt want a theologyian insider. it was so interesting to me, and this is probably a sin against humility, im going to...