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carroll presented him with a real estate contract and the demand that they sell their tiny house. >> she came in and gave you the papers. did she just say, turn around and walk away with? >> she said, you make my skin crawl. >> you make my skin crawl? >> yeah. >> and i thought, i bet you she did say that. >> so i pushed in some more for more details. >> and the details were, once again, a little different. about when and where he last saw her, for example, it wasn't when he went to bed around 10 pm, as he said on one occasion. or 5:30 the next morning, as he also said. no, this time mike said he last saw carol about 10:30 or 11 pm in the bathtub. >> how did you see her in the tub? >> i use the bathroom. >> and then he said, around midnight or 1 to 2, he heard the garage door open and went to the door and actually saw

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so when if somebody stepped in -- >> baby powder? >> i think i did that james bond thing with the paper on the door. >> when you open the door the paper falls. >> okay. >> by, now detective delsigne was working with his weak partner wallace and lewin. what lewin specializes in the most difficult of court cases. >> do you remember seeing the results of that interview what you thought? >> i thought that his memory had grown in areas where it shouldn't and in areas where he should be saying the same story it was different. and that's the hallmark of deception. >> but the mind plays tricks, the mind invents things and insert some into your memory and you believe them a strenuously as if they were memory. >> that's an interesting theory but it's never supported. memories can be lost but they do not increase in details over the years and they do not increase indifferent details. and that is a sign of what we call a lie. his version of what happened from the start made no sense to any of us. >> so what makes the case? >> so why would mike lie? to the cold case team it seemed obvious. >> he killed her on the night that you stop living there. everything going on that's not making sense it's because it's a lie. >> remarkably, mike continue to talk to them. three more times out of his own free will. very friendly without an attorney. he even let a prosecutor take a crack at. >> if you or me if you are in my position, tell me what you would think. >> probably what you're thinking. >> which is?

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ambulance of these family members did not help his case. but -- >> in the end, my job isn't to make sure that the family members get that what they want. my job is to make sure that carol's killer is held responsible. >> but was mike a killer? his attorney, kevin we donahue. >> i think the police are just wrong. >> no forensics. no witnesses. not even a body. the defense might have stopped right there. instead they decided to gamble. michael is a nice guy. the jury should see that. >> do you solemn state -- >> and if the details were a little different each time he was asked to tell the story, here is his chance to straighten it all out for the jury. how odd then that mike, under oath no, amended his story. just a little. again. like when he added the detail that carol was in the bathtub when she said something mean to him. she said, you make my skin crawl. also slightly different, the way he discovered she was gone. >> i opened the front door,

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carol's car driving away. >> what you see taillights? >> yeah. >> and your shirt was her? car >> yeah. >> also, remember that story about putting tape on the dresser drawers after cavill came and later founded broken? he did remember that now. >> so you didn't do the tape thing? >> i don't know -- >> you don't know what that is? >> no. >> but as he said in 2010, he did remember some other traps heat set, even more elaborate. >> i would take like, baby powder and put it on -- right inside the door.

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and going out the front door and slamming the door. >> you heard this? when >> i heard the slum of the front door. i know that. >> and the next morning -- >> we got up and and she wasn't there. >> mike sr. told's dad that carol had demanded that he signed papers to sell their house. he didn't want to. she got mad. they argue. he went to bed and when he woke up in the morning she was just gone. >> so we just assumed she needed to get away for a few days. but as the days went on, we got extremely worried. >> nearly a week after carol departed, her red audi fox foot showed up in the parking lot of the red onion. dusty, as if it had been there a while. >> i remember being upset about it. she was gone and i didn't know where she went. >> they drove around looking for her. went to bars. carol's picture in hand. the torrance police department opened a file but they couldn't answer any questions. like had she finally just gotten fed up with mike and gone off to start a new life

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went out, and the grudge door was open. and the car was gone. >> in earlier versions, didn't mike say he heard the garage door go up? but then saw tail lights as carol drove away. why had his story changed again? >> what's the deal with that? did you hear the garage door? >> i don't think so. >> why do you think that now? what has dogged your memory? >> because i think over the years, i thought about this night so many times. and i'd seen that car back out of the garage many many times. when she was leaving. so, i think i just thought in my mind that's what happened. i saw the car. i can see it right now. >> he never thought for a moment, he said, it would be the last time he would see his wife. >> i thought maybe she had gone out that night and went dancing. and stay the night with a friend. >> but what did happen to her? mike insisted he simply didn't know. >> did you have anything to do with killing her? >> no. >> did you have anything to do with her disappearance? >> no. >> other than i didn't sign the papers that made her upset. that's it. >> successful testimony?

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his attorney, kevin we donahue. i >> think the police are just wrong. >> no forensics. no witnesses. not even a body. the defense might have stopped right there. instead they decided to gamble. michael is a nice guy. the jury should see that. >> do you solemn state -- >> and if the details were a little different each time he was asked to tell the story, here is his chance to straighten it all out for the jury. how odd then that mike, under oath no, amended his story. just a little. again. like when he added the detail that carol was in the bathtub when she said something mean to him. she said, you make my skin crawl. also slightly different, the way he discovered she was gone. >> i opened the front door, went out, and the grudge door was open. and the car was gone. >> in earlier versions, didn't mike say he heard the garage door go up? but then saw tail lights as carol drove away.

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>> and the details were, once again, a little different. about when and where he last saw her, for example, it wasn't when he went to bed around 10 pm, as he said on one occasion. or 5:30 the next morning, as he also said. no, this time mike said he last saw carol about 10:30 or 11 pm in the bathtub. >> how did you see her in the top? >> i use the bathroom. >> and then he said, around midnight or 1 to 2, he heard the garage door open and went to the door and actually saw carols car driving away >> what you see taillights? >> yeah. >> and your shirt was her? car >> yeah. >> also, remember that story about putting tape on the dresser drawers after cavill came and later founded broken? he did remember that now. >> so you didn't do the tape thing? >> i don't know -- what >> you don't know with that? is >> no. >> but as he said in 2010, he did remember some other traps heat set, even more elaborate.

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>> i would take like, baby powder and put it on -- right inside the door. so when if somebody stepped in -- >> baby powder? >> i think i did that james bond thing with the paper on the door. >> when you open the door the paper falls. >> okay. >> by, now detective delsigne was working with his weak partner wallace and lewin. what lewin specializes in the most difficult of court cases. >> do you remember seeing the results of that interview what you thought? >> i thought that his memory had grown in areas where it shouldn't and in areas where he should be saying the same story it was different. and that's the hallmark of deception. >> but the mine plays tricks, the mind invents things and insert some into your memory and you believe them a strenuously as if they were memory. >> that's an interesting theory

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