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so when if somebody stepped in -- >> baby powder? >> i think i did that james bond thing with the paper on the door. >> when you open the door the paper falls. >> okay. >> by, now detective delsigne was working with his weak partner wallace and lewin. what lewin specializes in the most difficult of court cases. >> do you remember seeing the results of that interview what you thought? >> i thought that his memory had grown in areas where it shouldn't and in areas where he should be saying the same story it was different. and that's the hallmark of deception. >> but the mind plays tricks, the mind invents things and insert some into your memory and you believe them a strenuously as if they were memory. >> that's an interesting theory but it's never supported. memories can be lost but they do not increase in details over the years and they do not increase indifferent details. and that is a sign of what we call a lie. his version of what happened from the start made no sense to any of us. >> so what makes the case? >> so why would mike lie? to the cold case team it seemed obvious. >> he killed her on the night that you stop living there. everything going on that's not making sense it's because it's a lie. >> remarkably, mike continue to talk to them. three more times out of his own free will. very friendly without an attorney. he even let a prosecutor take a crack at. >> if you or me if you are in my position, tell me what you would think. >> probably what you're thinking. >> which is?
ambulance of these family members did not help his case. but -- >> in the end, my job isn't to make sure that the family members get that what they want. my job is to make sure that carol's killer is held responsible. >> but was mike a killer? his attorney, kevin we donahue. >> i think the police are just wrong. >> no forensics. no witnesses. not even a body. the defense might have stopped right there. instead they decided to gamble. michael is a nice guy. the jury should see that. >> do you solemn state -- >> and if the details were a little different each time he was asked to tell the story, here is his chance to straighten it all out for the jury. how odd then that mike, under oath no, amended his story. just a little. again. like when he added the detail that carol was in the bathtub when she said something mean to him. she said, you make my skin crawl. also slightly different, the way he discovered she was gone. >> i opened the front door,
his attorney, kevin we donahue. i >> think the police are just wrong. >> no forensics. no witnesses. not even a body. the defense might have stopped right there. instead they decided to gamble. michael is a nice guy. the jury should see that. >> do you solemn state -- >> and if the details were a little different each time he was asked to tell the story, here is his chance to straighten it all out for the jury. how odd then that mike, under oath no, amended his story. just a little. again. like when he added the detail that carol was in the bathtub when she said something mean to him. she said, you make my skin crawl. also slightly different, the way he discovered she was gone. >> i opened the front door, went out, and the grudge door was open. and the car was gone. >> in earlier versions, didn't mike say he heard the garage door go up? but then saw tail lights as carol drove away.
but it's never supported. memories can be lost but they do not increase in details over the years and they do not increase indifferent details. and that is a sign of what we call a lie. his version of what happened from the start made no sense to any of us. >> so what makes the case? >> so why would mike lie? to the cold case team it seemed obvious. >> he killed her on the night that you stop living there. everything going on that's not making sense it's because it's a lie. >> remarkably, mike continue to talk to them. three more times out of his own free will. very friendly without an attorney. he even let a prosecutor take a crack at. it >> if you or me if you are in my position, tell me what you would think. >> probably what you're thinking. >> which is? >> that i did. it >> will make a can tell you. you know, sometimes, you get a -- you know the kind of murder cases we get. we get cases where the husband finds out that his wife is