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Jeff sessions going to go to bat for donald trump with bob mueller or is jeff sessions going to stick the knife, the shiv right in donald trumps back? or tell the truth. i think he is going to tell the truth. >> thats a good point. the president has publicly done more than anything -- everything you could possibly imagine to taunt jeff sessions. >> yeah. hes insulted him. hes made fun of him. he has attacked him on twitter. but this is what i said, lawrence, a couple of weeks ago when i talked a...

Threatened him, tried to get him to quit, just pummelled him publicly and now we know privately for 15 months. jeff sessions going to go to bat for donald trump with bob mueller or is jeff sessions going to stick the knife, the shiv right in donald trumps back? or tell the truth. i think he is going to tell the truth. >> thats a good point. the president has publicly done more than anything -- everything you could possibly imagine to taunt jeff sessions. >> yeah. hes insulted him. hes made fun o...

It ebbs and flows over time. the trends are definitely down. >> but its also spring and thats when you have -- spikes in immigration during this spring. >> the crisis at the border is not even an immigration crisis, thats a humanitarian crisis. >> they have presented it as an invasion. people swarming over the boarder to threaten society. where its not that. they have shifted that whole story. >> and the conventional argument doesnt work. >> this says something about whats being signaled from th...