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Immediately, which is what the demand from washington is. so there is this huge mismatch between the expectations in washington and in pyongyang. >> but on the mismatch and the expectations, if north korea, and thats a big if, if north korea agrees to give up their nukes, theyre going to want something in exchange. what is that something you think? >> their something is complete security guarantee, regime survival and, quite honestly, we can give no first attack security guarantee that we will n...