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Have been the heroes of this entire pandemic? and yes, that audience applauded when joe biden dropped that line. you could not find a national audience anywhere that would apply to that. i think the thinking behind it is, if we show this on tv, if we have these ridiculous lies come out of the presidents and people applied, then maybe we will kind of snow the american public to think its fine. people despise the stuff. >> jesse: i think it was stagecraft, cooked up by cnn, the white house to show...