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Richard matt couldnt have pulled off the escape without help from inside. >> this was meticulously planned. they spent a lot of time they rehearsed it. are you surprised your son took the risk? that he did this? >> yeah. i was really surprised that he did it. i still say to this day, if that woman and whoever else was involved didnt give them that stuff, those guys would have never broke out of jail. they wouldnt have had nothing to do it with. you know i blame them as well as the two guys david...

They do this with power tools and nobody hear the power tools? david sweat is saying they actually used a hacksaw to cut the hole in the cell and get out and go to the steam pipe and use the hacksaw there too. something that wouldnt be as noisy as a power tool. >> unbelievable. jean casarez thank you very much. meanwhile, david sweats mother says her son is not the only one who did something wrong. in an exclusive interview pamela sweat said she blames those at the prison including joyce mitchel...

>> i still say to this day, if that woman and whoever else was involved and didnt give them that stuff, those guys never would have broke out of jail so i kind of, you know, blame them, as well as the two guys david and the other guy. >> reporter: we are getting new details about richard matt and what happened up until his very final moments. apparently, he found some things on the way when he was out on the loose. he found things like food, pop tarts and m&ms and grape flavored liquor he appare...

Did it. i still say to this day if that woman didnt and whoever else was involved didnt give them that stuff, those guys wouldnt have never broke out of jail. they wouldnt have had nothing to do with it. so i blame them as well as the two guys david and the other guy. they knew better. >> youre talking about joyce mitchell? >> well not just her but other people that are in the prison system. >> and what do you hope happens to them? do you think is a fair punishment for them? >> i dont know. im n...